i mean, it was obama's own treasury secretary, timothy geithner who said three years ago that social security, medicare, medicaid, interest on the debt to pay for those programs within 10 years will consume 92% of the federal budget. you add in obamacare, we're a pathetic western european country and there's no america out there to protect us. >> as you said, a million times, he's the worst spender in history. this idea that he's the most frugal president in 60 years, romney ought to mock and ridicule him for that absurdity. his obstruction on entitlements will kill us. i've said it over and over, but romney and his team need to say it more and directly at romney. why have you sat here cynically and acted like there's not a existential problem. why, mr. obama? >> sean: he's got to thread a needle, governor romney. if he hits too hard, oh, you were mean to the president. he was mean. on the other hand, i want to see the passion. i want to see the energy and emotion that you're showing, the concern, because -- >> i really doesn't have that sort of passion, but he has -- >> sean: i thin